There are a few certainties in life: death, taxes, and The Joe Budden Podcast going viral for chaotic takes, hilarious moments, heated arguments…or some combination of the three. This week, co-hosts Marc Lamont Hill and Queenzflip had a tense exchange that went viral, producing entertainment for the entire internet.
Although the content was a Patreon exclusive, subscribers felt that those who did not pay for the extra JBP content needed to see what went down. Early in the clip, the political analyst and internet comedian were already going at it; Hill questioned Flip about whether he believed he would do something shady, and Flip repeated that he did not know. Their co-host Emanny jumped in and wondered if the footage should be released, which prompted Joe Budden to share one of his few comments throughout the argument.
“It’s going out,” he said. “The second y’all wanna care about what people shouldn’t see, then shut up. This is going out. This is going right out. FedEx, too. UPS. Here’s the tracking link.” It appeared like Hill and Flip tried to keep that in mind, sharing an “I love you” to defuse their heightened emotions. However, things picked right back up soon after.
Hill seemingly attempted to prove his integrity by telling Flip he had never divulged any of their private moments or things Flip may not want people to know about. “Whatever you ever told me, you know ain’t never come out,” he said. “And whatever happened that I witnessed, I ain’t never said sh*t about. I’m not gon’ say it because then that would be saying it. That’s all I’m gon’ say. Can’t nobody up here say nothing different.”
Flip seemed to take issue with the way Hill communicated, saying he “said a lot of tricky words,” almost as if he intentionally tried to deceive people. “No, I don’t,” Hill said. “I say regular words, and it’s tricky to you.” Their debate peaked when Flip was evaluating their purposes on the show and said Hill does “sucker sh*t,” setting Hill off in the process.
“Don’t call me a sucker no more,” Hill repeated, while Flip clarified that he was not calling him a “sucker,” but his actions. Hill could not be reasoned with and suggested they go outside to talk when Flip stood up while repeating his points. “I’m not podding,” he said. “Don’t f**king stand up. Are we talking or are we podding? We can talk outside or we can pod.” Ultimately, the context of the debate is still unclear, but fans can subscribe to The Joe Budden Podcast Patreon to watch the full episode and see what prompted this. Hill also addressed the situation in his own 11-minute video on Patreon, which can be accessed here.
Flip addressed the situation directly on X. “Just to clear the air: I was never coming at the fans,” he said. He clarified in the tweet that their issue stemmed from a conversation behind the scenes, and Budden actually triggered it by mentioning the hosts’ compensation. “I got caught up in the moment, but in retrospect I don’t feel that way,” Flip wrote in a follow-up tweet. “It was all entertainment from my side — I’m here to put on and go home. Team player, always.”